Age is affecting my memory haha. Disco has a lot of problems storywise But not her looks! So it has been hard, and its really hard to avoid, because it pops up on all the [social media] accounts, or people comment on my posts with cruel, unscientific comments. Anyway, another Discovery-ism, amongst the many other weird decisions on this show. After all, it DOES seem as though Tilly is gone from the crew for the time being. Somehow these insecure people feel others not like them are a threat to how they see themselves and how the world should, in their opinion, be. Where I live people compete on the merits. She never wouldve made it through the Academy. Episodes will be. But it looks like TG47 answered your question! I did, though. It included a lot of the old characters too like Chakotay, BElanna, Tuvok with a lot of new characters. Everybody loves Tilly. Except the writers of course. Sorry TM, its MY fault! Have you ever read those? So smart in the Starfleet tradition. They just didnt do much with him. She makes it all look so easy. Sick and tired of T and A being the main focus. The Enterprise D was the only place we saw a councelor. Why do you think being nervous or anxious means that you can not graduate from the academy? This is rare case were I actually agree with Lorma. Actually, the production team is not helping either. I mean, there could have been but it was never seen or talked about. Mary Wiseman as Captain Killy in Terra Firma, Part 2. Jack perhaps you were at the Dave Chappelle protest screaming Judas, you are starting to sound like the type who gets sensitive over everything. If Tilly needed to pick up a phaser or be physically active then that means the Discovery is in some serious shit, with it either having been boarded and their entire security personnel neutralised, or with Tilly separated from the ship, most like due to its destruction. After they wrote her to be the most annoying person possible. The ships shrink should not be a Command level position and in fact would make sense to be on the CMOs staff. She gets up in the morning and lives with a purpose, helping her crewmates, and ready to make the ultimate sacrifice if necessary. Basically a good officer whos been in Starfleet for some years but her career stalled due to emotional and self-esteem issues. Just when it looks like the character has finally grown as a person and doing her own thing, comes right back. I think theres room for it. We have both Mary Wiseman and Sonequa Martin-Green talking about body issues, Kate Mulgrew jumping in too, and some more behind-the-scenes photos. I also know hes basically your favorite Trek author. the only one worth saving.. quite possibly the most irritating character in Trek history. Respectfully, to anyone somehow offended by that. Overweight and obesity are not a matter of looks or body shape, and those who feel free to body-shame are off-side and frequently unkind. Yes I forgot David Mack is a consultant on this show too and is well aware of all the post-Nemesis stories in the novels. DSC has a wonderful cast and a neat diverse set of characters. Thats kind of what I was playing with. I lovvvve Lilly/Tilly and her curves. Neither she nor anyone else with common sense is celebrating obesity. Great interview, Dawn. When Mary Wiseman's Lt. Sylvia Tilly left the USS Discovery for a job at the new Starfleet Academy in the fourth episode of season four, it was promised she would be back. Like a lot of people, she pivoted and found herself in a new role as teacher. Key difference in thinking, and it makes all the difference in the big picture! A rare, successful example of this is James Gunns Guardians otG and Suicide Squad, in which a similar premise is treated comedically yet with a touch of sincerity, so as not to devolve into outright farce. And Id add she has a hero complex too always wants to save the day/galaxy/whathaveyou. I have to agree. There is a wealth of other outlets for health and fitness information, that frankly are more dispassionate and factual than getting health and fitness info from celebrities. Tilly is the product of lazy writing and a lazy showrunner. In the season four finale Coming Home, Mary Wiseman returned as Lt. Tilly, now a Starfleet Academy leader working with cadets and Admiral Vance to coordinate the evacuation and defense of Earth on Federation HQ. It is one thing to be healthy and quite another to be reed-thin and healthy. Roddenberrys imprint on Next Gen made the characters not flawed enough for some tastes, granted, but Deep Space Nine, Voyager, and Enterprise have countless examples of human foibles and emotions sure, not to the degree as Discovery, with its ship full of Barclays as one commenter put it, rhetorically. Sonequa, Their characters are fantastic as are all the others. I dont love her the way I love Saru or Pike, or Janeway or Seven or Picard or Spock. I agree 100%. By: Laurie Ulster No one can argue that Shatner is anything less than fit at whatever age. She wears 36D bra size and weighs 147 pounds. All Access Star Trek Podcast, Discovery, DS9, Lower Decks, Section 31, Star Trek 4, Star Trek: Picard, Star Trek: Prodigy, Strange New Worlds. Because she symbolizes the Trekkies, geeks, nerds. This post (handouts bad habits yada yada yada) is your latest misogny, homophobia and white supremacy , and I am sick and tired of it. For me, DS9 was the best Star Trek Show for character development. Sonequa Martin-Green as Burnham hugging Mary Wiseman as Tilly in Coming Home. Acceptance? I think that she is one of the go-to people when there is hard science stuff to crack. Her body shape is fabulousshe is gorgeous. What accent? I think you are talking jibberish. Picard is the third Kurtzman Production. Tilly is not a perfect officer. And it was mentioned in one of the episodes of the first season, I dont remember whichwould have to research, that councilors on Galaxy class ships due to the fact that families were on the ship and it was meant for longer than 5 year missions. Saru would then recognize the potential in her, give her opportunities to build her self esteem and confidence, and wed get a good arc that doesnt seem forced like it does now. By: TrekMovie.com Staff But my point was that she rarely conveyed anything useful or something that was not already obvious to all. Tilly (Mary Wiseman) leads the stranded Starfleet cadets to safety. Every woman is very beautiful. As far as science fiction most Trek shows have normal looking ppl. But respect is always earned and never enforceable. Overall, I like the fun character of Tilly (too bad the writers room made her first officer). Tilly is the most human member of the crew. Shes only competent because of her character shield, shes mentally and emotionally immature, out of shape for the job shes in and the role she wanted to perform, and would barely survive in a high school, let alone in any capacity at an actual Starfleet. The writers may love the character, but they also appreciate that the actor is a real person who might want variety in their career. I look at Disco as adding a new flavor to the existing universe. I am a therapist in real life, and even *I* think it was crazy that they had a therapist on the bridge. Mary Wiseman: That experience affects her so much this season. Take me to the stars and tell me a story. Ive learned a lot of bad spelling comes from dictating into your smartphone. Mary Wiseman (born July 30, 1985) is an American actress. I dont understand this at all. Not everyone is skinny and not everyone likes skinny. And for your own gain, right? Im reaally hoping season 4 will be smoother, Im holding thumbs here. You mean that I can find myself a BBW in the 32nd Century? It just came to me and wanted your opinion. The character. They made an insensitive statement about her body and called her a promoter of an unhealthy lifestyle. That will be the one I read first! Tillys great contribution is that shes NOT that sort of superwoman most people can never be. As you put it: I love how Disco has put the human back into the human experience. And I agree wholeheartedly. If I was a public figure I would do zero social media, ignore the internet, cash my massive paychecks, sign autographs for real in-person fans I meet, and be so thankful Im not working in a grunt job making minimum wage. So many reasons to be critical of Disco plot holes, awful sense of morals, missed opportunities, etc. Originally I imagined him as Denzel Washington or Blair Underwood, but after belatedly watching The Wire and Luther I think Idris Elba would be a really good match. And over the last couple of years, so have I. Im still not fond of the gory, violent Klingon business of the first couple of seasons, but I slowly began to see DISCO anew. We never saw her effort to become that person. Wiseman had other things to do. There are characters you really cherish and others that are fun but ultimately nothing special. And tons dont. Maybe its just me, but I dont really care about women or mens weight on TV shows, I dont care for negative comments on them by haters, but neither do I care for the actors/actresses making such a whiney big deal about it. American actress Mary Wiseman payed several smaller roles in the past but recently gained a big recognition as Cadet Sylvia Tilly in new iteration of Star Trek franchise called Star trek: Discovery. There is a great scene back in S1 when Tilly and Burnham are doing cardio training and post workout are eating their protien, carbs and fat nutrition, something that the body requires after a hard cardio workout. Two Kelpians and a Disco Kenny (Zero Kelpians were harmed during this shoot. Mary's fans are curious to know if she is indeed expecting a little one but the rumors are false. Have to completely agree you T2. Remember , they had steroids and thyroid problems in the 80's, but the majority of people were off normal weight, which today would be called skinny. KevinB: I let go of my preconceptions about what star trek is.. We love that someone who isnt super fit was cast, especially that its a woman. Fortunately, more than 30 years ago I was encouraged to focus on the health aspects of eating well and training hard and not the aesthetics. Unfortunately PICARD turned out to be set in the same period, so it derailed my plans, although later I did figure out a way to explain the considerable differences in the Prime Universe. It was the fall of 2017 and my non-Trekkie wife, Lisa, had begrudgingly agreed to watch Star Trek: Discovery with me, having heard me talk nonstop about how excited I was for Trek's return to TV.We were on the third episode, "Context is for Kings," when she appeared. Only showing up for briefings when that specialty was needed for that particular situation. There are a number of places you can receive professional help and I strongly recommend you seek that help. Martin-Green says she has come to accept changes in her body, especially after the birth of her second child shortly before production on season three: With my first pregnancy I bounced back without trying (which is a crime, by the way, that we expect women to do that after birth rather than focus on healing). It feels the only reason was to have a non-binary character, which after a few episodes ended up fading into the background with the rest of the furniture anyway. Sisko on the other hand. I have considered it and rejected it. Episodes will be. I think the character would have been much better served if Tillys quirks were something that changed as the character grew over the seasons. I would just be happy if Rhys got more than three lines an episode lol. )Granted, I think the special effects, space battles, bizarre technology and explosions are the proverbial tail wagging the dog, but thats always been the case, and is increasingly expected in these post-Star Wars, high tech decades. That way she wont get the appearance she does now of jumping over more experienced officers and seeming to just get ahead because shes Sarus favorite. I highly doubt the writers decided to just write her off for the hell of it (especially given how much everyone in the cast and crew love her). See more at the Paley Center for Media Arts' Star Trek: Discovery Fight for the Future exhibit in Los Angeles, now through July 7th. First of all, because theres more options for cosplay now, because she changed her hair. I think others that make such claims are having their own feel feels hurt or nostalgia rattled. The Berman era had specific ideas about things like accents and music that kind of locked it into something fairly homogeneous. SuKal accidentally blowing up all warp ships thats another instance of Trek being intwined with my own life So you offend S3 of DSC, you also sully the memory of my mum and EVERY mother that ever died. Theres a difference between celebrating obesity and accepting individual human beings, treating them as human beings, and not targeting them specifically for emotional harassment. This modern trend of celebrating obesity is what is wrong with American society, and is another reason why the rest of the world laughs at America. Season 4 sees Sonequa Martin-Green's, Michael Burnham, return with her. Just more pandering. It has also been speculated that Wiseman may be moving over to the proposed Starfleet Academy show openly discussed by Alex Kurtzman and Paramount+ execs but not yet officially ordered as a series. I think Saru will just be the surrogate first officer again although he is now a captain. There is such a difference between having criticisms of the way the characters are written and criticizing the actors performance/craft and their leadership in the company. Control over ones own body is the most basic freedom we should have. Since season one, Tilly (Mary Wiseman). Yes but Star Trek shouldnt be about lazy writing, poor character development and bad storytelling. I hope that Wiseman uses that info into the future because it does work for fat burning and muscle building.. Even Picard has his own show. MS Wiseman owns the sadistic Bitch Capt Killy like she does Tilly. Where is this? And Kirsten Beyer probably consults on that show too along with her duties on Picard and Discovery, so its possible at least. But the characters are pitch perfect. You know, like a psychotic murderer? In season three Tilly was first officer and then acting captain; how does all of that affect who she is in season four? DS9 Avatar books 1 and 2 were quite good and helpfully kicked off the DS9 Relaunch sequence. She is best known for starring as Sylvia Tilly in the Paramount+ science fiction drama series Star Trek: Discovery (2017-present). Have to disagree. We need to examine our highest ideals and allegiances to reveal our preconceived notions, shallow knee-jerk reactions, and find the truth about our choices. Tilly, played by Mary Wiseman on Star Trek Discovery is not pregnant. Yet, she is. It is not OK to be overweight. She's interviewed several Star Trek . Just IMHO, because to each his (or her, or their) own! The 60s/70s are gone. advantage. Such use is more overt in DISCO, but it is by no means out of the ordinary. I agree, the writing, character development, and story telling needs to improve. Its could have (or couldve). By indicating that shes not ashamed of her body? Im sure nearly everyone of the crew of TNG had issues and problems. She is super meta. It doesnt look like unhealthy curvy but just different type of genes. I think people need that kind of thing to heal. The Terra Firma arc introduced the real Mirror Universe version of Tilly (aka Captain Killy). Imo, this show tries so overly hard to be socially progressive, its the very thing that makes it a turn-off.